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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
Your third paragraph is pretty funny to me, as that’s exactly what you’re doing with #Russian #propaganda. Like you, I think the #US has done great evil in the world. But unlike you, I don’t automatically discount everything I hear in US media, and I trust next to NOTHING that I read in Russian media.

Your second paragraph is in the same vein and shows the kind of confused thinking and hypocrisy that I see in other “radical peace” folks.
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
You imply that if we can’t pick a side in every armed conflict in the world that we shouldn’t pick a side in ANY armed conflict in the world. So, are you advocating for #NATO to be involved in MORE conflicts, or fewer?

Whose media and criteria do we use to decide when/if we should interfere? This is all based on the logical fallacy that large governmental organizations are capable only of one kind of morality...
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
...and that specifically, in this case, the harms that the #US has done to the world make it impossible for us to ever do anything good ever again. Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day, and despite the multitude of sins that the US has to answer for, our support of #Ukraine is the most righteous thing we’ve done since fighting the Nazis and Imperial Japan in WWII.
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
Moving on, here’s the real background (sources; history, and people actually from #Ukraine) on why Yugoslavia is a poor model to use for Ukraine, and why some #slavic peoples initially greeted the Germans as liberators.
#Russia has been oppressing Ukraine and seeking to destroy her people, language, and culture for hundreds of years. #Kyiv was the center of #Rus culture from its creation until it was sacked by the Mongols in 1240.
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
The #Rus in #Muscovy agreed to bend the knee and pay tribute to the #Mongols instead, and as such avoided being razed to the ground.

But they never got over their jealousy of #Kyiv, and since then they have done everything in their power to erase the cultural legacy of Kyiv and Ukraine. When Stalin took over the #USSR he continued that policy of the Russian Empire, and #Holodomor was a direct result of that.
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
After killing millions of Ukrainians by starvation (or murder, or deportation to #Siberia), he moved in Russian settlers to replace them. (This is why eastern Ukraine was Russian speaking, btw). Western Ukraine was a part of Poland then, and they watched in horror as their fellow Ukrainians were starved to death en masse by the Soviets. In 1939 the USSR, along with their ally Nazi Germany, started WWII in Europe by invading #Poland.
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
In addition to murdering tens of thousands of #poles they also began applying their genocidal anti-Ukrainian policies to the people of #Ruthenia and #Galicia (areas that are now Western Ukraine). Is it a really a surprise, then, that when the Germans turned on their former allies in 1941, that some Ukrainians would see them initially as liberators?
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
Ok, let’s talk about #Yugoslavia and why balkanizing eastern Ukraine is bullshit. Yugoslavia was a patchwork nation of all kinds of religions and ethnicities that were held together by a single charismatic leader, Tito. After his death there was nobody strong enough to hold things together, and eventually the #Serbs (long-time allies of Russia…) kicked off a genocidal rampage that led to #NATO intervention and the #Balkans as we know them today.
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
#Luhansk and #Donetsk are are not #Bosnia and #Kosovo. #Crimea is not #Croatia. The invasion of Crimea and the “uprising” in #Donbas was started by Russian Army troops out of uniform, as punishment for #Euromaidan and the desire of the majority of Ukraine to build stronger ties with the #EU and the west. There was no oppression of Russian language or culture in Ukraine, and in fact most of the broadcast media in eastern Ukraine came from Russia...
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@faab64 @lazarukb @wherephysicswentwrong@universeodon.com
... and Russian was an official "regional language" which allowed its use in courts and schools and government.

So that’s the real history of this conflict. #Russia sees #Ukraine as “Russian clay” and will do everything in their power to dominate and suppress Ukraine and her culture. Ukraine has the right to say “no F-U Russia” and go their own way, and WE have the right to support them in their fight against domination by a #fascist power.
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